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Sorry if you're stuck in traffic. That must suck. Not quite as bad as being gunned down for little or no reason. Thank you to those protestors. The time is now.

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Protesters have marched to the Brooklyn Bridge, where they are blocking inbound traffic.
FULL STORY: 7ny.tv/1FNbTQU




  • Jim Guarino Making innocent people pay for a handful of stupid cops is wrong. Two wrong don't make it right. It's rude and disrespectful. They can protest without being assholes.
  • Alex McDowell Just like those guys on the Edmund Pettis Bridge.
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  • David Darnell Civil Disobedience.

    Thomas Paine lives.
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  • Jim Guarino It's disrespectful wether you think it is or not. You have a right to protest not to disrupt a city. I'm not saying they can't just do it without being assholes.
  • Alex McDowell Meaning your comfortable life should not be disrupted to let people know there is gross injustice. Where do you draw the line? And why do you get to?
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  • David Darnell Heck, Chris Christie did it because a Mayor didn't kiss his ass.
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  • Alex McDowell And who are the assholes? Isn't "assholery" (tm) kind of started by gun dealers, the NRA, and killer cops? Why would these people be in the streets if there wasn't cause?
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  • Jim Guarino First of all you don't fucking know me so stop judging me. Disrespect is disrespect no matter what's behind the cause.
  • Alex McDowell Using the editorial "you". Calm down.
  • Alex McDowell What's to "respect"? They're protesting murderers.
  • Alex McDowell Who showed disrespect here?
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  • Alex McDowell All things considered, these people are showing incredible restraint.
  • Jim Guarino My comfortable life? Being raised by a abusive alcoholic is considered comfortable. Not all white people have it good. But I'm happy to hear your life was all fin and games. And stopping a whole city's traffic is disrespectful and the fact you don't know that is a special kind of ignorance.
  • Stephen Wolfe Police are making their jobs much harder for themselves. It's fine to lock criminals up, but people are going to have an issue with executing people for no reason.
  • Alex McDowell This isn't personal. Please stop trying to make it so.
  • Jim Guarino I agree but are all those cops racist or are some of them just fucking assholes? Both side could use a little respect.
  • Alex McDowell If you have a gun, a badge, and "legal" authority, and can almost always get away with taking a human life, you already have "respect". How does the other side ask for their share of respect? A hand written request on parchment? "Dear Police. Please don't shoot us dead."?
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  • Jim Guarino You got personal when you were judging my comfortable life witch is further from the truth. You're just like the cops you're bitching about. Stop judging people you don't know. It's ignorant to think all white people are privileged like you are.
  • Alex McDowell If we had stopped with the Declaration of Independence, as a sign of "respect" and not shown how pissed off we were, we'd still be living under the British crown.
  • Alex McDowell Jim, try to understand the idea of the "editorial 'you' ".
  • Jim Guarino You know nothing about those peoples hardships and nor do I. But I don't pretend to. And the fact that the cops would be the first people you would call if a black man robbed you is kind of ironic since you don't like them.
  • Alex McDowell Someone here is making a lot of assumptions about the other person here, and missing by a mile, and it isn't me.
  • Alex McDowell Which is why we should get off of the personal attacks.
  • Roger M. Chamberlain Somebody enjoys being a bootlicker I do believe.
  • Jim Guarino Those were my opinion but I guess my opinion is wrong and you are right.
  • Alex McDowell Or, let's see if we can try another approach. Hypothetically speaking. HYPOTHETICALLY, now...
    Let's say your brother is shot dead by the police while committing a misdemeanor. The cop laughs about it. Gets off of all responsibility and the courts don't listen to your complaints. Now, imagine your brothers get killed in the same fashion, time after time, thousands of your brothers (hypothetically speaking) over a long period of time, say a few hundred years. And you have no legal response. Is there an equivalency if you give the finger in front of the police station? Even if some poor mother has to see it happen in front of her innocent children? Even if (hypothetically speaking) there's a law against obscene gestures? Where is the obscenity? And what good is the law to you?
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  • Jim Guarino Did you know that black slaves were in central and south America long before they were here in America. So why doesn't anyone care about those brothers.

    • Alex McDowell I give up.

      Linda Matuskey Alex, this guy, Jim, has some issues with anger that have nothing to do with the subject. Personally, IMO, protests that do not disrupt the public in some way are meaningless to those in power and to the media. I am so glad to see people are not letting this thing die out, but are continuing the protest.
    • Alex McDowell My opinion here is likely to stir up a hornet's nest. While the pacifist movements in the Civil Rights era, personified by Martin Luther King, DID disrupt some lives, they were still "respectful", and I think they, on their own, would have had little to no effect without the angrier, more violent, more disruptive riots, ie Watts. The powers of the time had to think, "I think it's time we listened to this King fellow, because there's some awfully pissed off people that are likely to do some REAL damage".
      Even Gandhi and the Indian Independence movement could only go so far without the fear that the whole nation would burn down. (And, really, it did)
      Not to glorify the violence, and certainly not to downplay the effect of the pacifist warriors, but unjust power structures need to acknowledge the rational, cooler heads standing up for justice or the structure itself will explode. And for good reason.
      It's a yin and a yang.
    • Alex McDowell No matter how you feel about Fidel Castro, for instance, or his tactics to take over, he wouldn't have existed if not for Batista and our corporate support of him. If we recognized early the Cuban people's desire for justice, and got on the proper side, the whole thing could have gone down a lot differently.

      Jim Guarino It's funny how you people keep judging me with out knowing me. You judgemental assholes are no better than the the cops you hate. It's ok for you to be judgemental but not ok for others. Sounds like someone has double standards.
    • Alex McDowell Jim, you have to get over this idea that we're personally attacking you, or judging you. We're having a conversation.
    • Jim Guarino Calling me hateful isn't judging?
    • Alex McDowell First of all, where did anyone here call you "hateful"?

      Secondly, and more importantly (and I hope I can state this clearly),:

      Something happened today on the Brooklyn Bridge. Why? What does it mean? What happens next? What SHOULD happen next? How do we, as a rational and hopefully compassionate society DO about it? Or even THINK about it? What place does civil disobedience have in our culture? And what are its limits in the face of a legal system that won't listen? Etc.

      It has NOTHING to do with you personally, or with me, really.


      Bj Ferguson We are all human beings, and as such, there is no true, inherent difference between any of us, which is why the senseless killing of citizens, by police officers, in any American municipality, is inexcusable, and should rightly offend each and every one of us. It does not matter if the citizen is Black, mentally ill, homeless, poor, male, young, old, White, female, doing nothing at all wrong, or having an outstanding warrant for back child-support....the circumstances are of little importance, when we are talking about Civil Servants deciding to disregard the value of another citizen's life, gunning that citizen down with no more consideration than swatting a fly, and behaving as though it is a right granted to them, via the uniform and badge. If we all are not outraged by this epidemic of Murdering Cops, these Thugs with Badges, abusing the public, breaking the law, and walking away without punishment, thus making the probability of even more of these murders, a certainty, then we have failed as a society and we have failed each other. None of us has the right to ignore this problem....none of us should be complaining about those who are willing to protest, in order to stand against the injustice of a corrupted system. If we are not able to stand with them, physically, than we should ALL be standing with them, in spirit. The pain and suffering of any one of us, weakens each and every one of us...and threatens the future of our society, overall.
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    • Alex McDowell Well, yeah....What he said. (BJ you always have a knack for summing up.)


      Jim Guarino Sorry issue with anger is judgemental. Is it not? Linda knows absolutely nothing about me, nothing. And when I tell my black friends (and yes I do have them) that I was racist and hateful they all tell me it's hard for them to believe because I'm the most layed back and nicest guy they know. So no I don't have anger issues. I was but no longer am. And I worked really hard and lost all of my friends not to be hateful so yes I get upset when people judge me. My black friends don't judge me and either should she. So tell your minions to back off.
    • Clay Romero Hmmm, plz move out of traffic so i can find a parking spot to help protest.

      Fixed.
    • Alex McDowell I have "minions"? I always wanted to have minions.
    • Alex McDowell Ah, Clay...if only it were so easy...
    • Clay Romero So, I guess public forums are places for only civil people. Those losers.
    • Clay Romero Would be easy if the dude get out of the road, geeze man. lol Come on
    • Jim Guarino So your not going to answer my question. So I guess like most people you can't admit when your wrong. Clay there wasn't a dude on the bridge there were hundreds and yes I want them to get the fuck off the road so the people who worked all day can go home and enjoy their families. I know I don't want to sit in traffic for hours because a handful of cops are assholes. I shouldn't have to pay for their mistakes.

      Alex McDowell Historically, that desire to not be inconvenienced in the face of civil upheaval doesn't work out so well.

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