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Trying to Pin a Bircher Down

BTW, this article from linkedin was the genesis of this whole endeavor. My bet offer is ignored repeatedly in the comments section:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/racing-toward-police-state-alan-scholl?trk=pulse-det-nav_art

This is likely to go away. I wanted to save what I could. It has various threads going. All can be viewed at
https://www.facebook.com/AlanSchollFPE?fref=ufi
For now.

If you truly believe that President Obama is conspiring to stay in office past his legal term, I'm willing to put up any amount you wish in a wager that he does not. I'm offering 20/1 odds. Let's get this together. That is, if you really believe the things you say...
Easy money. Almost free. You just have to stand by the stuff you're telling people that you believe.
Can you do that?

























  • Alex McDowell Just a straight wager. You made truth claims. I bet you're wrong. All you have to do is stand by your claims.
  • Alex McDowell Anything? Anyone? Hello?
  • Daniel Sparrowhawk · Friends with Alan Scholl
    Way to be! Start an argument Alex McDowell! The actions you are taking right now in starting this "Wager" is a mirror to the civil unrest about to take place in the United states... This act of going out and trying to disprove one another and being sno...See More
  • Alex McDowell Stepping over what lines? I see an opportunity, and am just trying to make a few bucks. The rest of your post makes no sense. But if you care to make the wager, we'll talk.
  • Alex McDowell And I'm not trying to "disprove" you. Time will do that. Or not. That's what makes a horse race!
  • Alex McDowell The question is if anyone on your side has the confidence in their position.
  • Alex McDowell So far, there's no evidence of that.
  • Alex McDowell I would welcome it, though.
  • Alex McDowell And, for the record, I did not start this argument. Your side did. They posited something without evidence (or out of manufactured evidence), and don't seem willing to stand by it. I'm not arguing one way or the other. I want no argument. I just want the cash.
  • Alex McDowell It's a yes/no question. And all the evidence needed will be provided in 2017. No argument. Just reality. As it unfolds one way or the other. I'm betting on one outcome.
  • Alex McDowell And I'm confident enough in the outcome to put up money. So far, no one from your side is. I look forward to that changing.
  • Daniel Sparrowhawk · Friends with Alan Scholl
    I'm saying keep your questions to yourself. Enough with the nit-picking! It's childish! You are entitled to your own beliefs let us have entitlement to ours without discrimination! Alan and I believe that Obama will stay past his term! Let it be! There was absolutely no need for this post! Only to cause tension, which you have done! This is enough with these comments... Keep to yourself.
  • Alex McDowell Oh, contraire! (sp?) . There IS need for this post. Money. And truth. If you have it, prove it. If not, then you're making claims about knowledge you don't have. I'm not judging. I'm betting.
  • Alex McDowell There are no "nits" to pick. This is either going down one way, or not. Simple. Couldn't possibly any simpler.
  • Alan Scholl Thanks Daniel. There's an old adage regarding those with his attitude. "Never wrestle with a pig.... You end up all dirty, and the pig likes it."
  • Alex McDowell I'm not wrestling. I'm putting up cash. A wager. One of us is going to be wrong.
  • Alex McDowell The question is, "Do you really believe what you say about Obama's intentions in 2017?" Simple. If you do, back it up.
  • Alan Scholl What you don't get is that what is happening isn't something I or any rational human being wants... But the path we are on is clear.

    • Alan Scholl The personality of the tyrant or the name... Obama, Clinton, Castro, doesn't matter - the tyranny does.
    • Alex McDowell

      Write a comment...

    • Alex McDowell But you claim it's going to happen. I say it won't. And I'm putting money down. You won't. So you're warnings of tyranny are kind of irrelevant to the point. You're claiming knowledge of something you have no evidence for. The evidence will be fully available on a specific date. It will go one way or the other. If you believe it, put your money down. Or we're just going to have to assume you're making it up.
    • Alex McDowell Simple. No muss. No fuss.
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    Alex McDowell Well, there you go. Two exceptional claims with no evidence. But, let's assume you're serious. Why not make a buck or two, or a few thousand off the knowledge you claim to have.


    Alan Cook This isn't about making money, its about making the public aware of the danger we are in because people like you put a Hitler-like narcissist in charge of our country.

















    • Alex McDowell We tend to see it differently. Pot-ay-to, pot-ah-to. You think Obama's the NAZI, we see you spreading lies and propaganda with no proof, or evidence in exactly the way the NAZIS did. So. What the hell. Split the difference, and we get off of Godwinning each other and let history and the facts decide. But if one of us is lying, it should cost something, n' est pas?
    • Alex McDowell
    • Alan Cook I'm not lying, and I'm not interested in your trolling efforts either. I'm just trying to make public awareness for a real problem. If Germans could have done that in the 1930's maybe they could have stopped Hitler before all those people died.
    • Alan Cook You just want to suppress the truth, like all liberals.
    • Alex McDowell No. History will tell us exactly the truth of your assertions. I just want to make you pay for the transgression. In cash.
      Alex McDowell Twenty to one odds. Easy money. No ideology lessons. Just the fact of history rolling out in the way it will.



      Alex McDowell And a cash transaction at the outcome.
    • Alex McDowell I'm a little leery of your holding the judgeship on who may or may not be Hitler. Rather than make that bold declaration you might want to wait and see how it unfolds. But, that's neither here, nor there. The fact of the matter is you don't believe your own bluster. If you did, you'd take the cash. Donate it to something. Have a vacation. Whatever you want. You've made a fact assertion. It should be a piece of cake from there.
    • Alex McDowell

      Alan Cook I'm an American. I make public awareness for love of country, not for financial gain. As a liberal i know that's something you just wouldn't understand. I feel sorry for you.
      • Alan Cook The only fact you have is that you love your Obama and he can do no wrong in your eyes. Hell when he refuses to leave office you will probably support him for it and say it was necessary.
      • Alex McDowell Love of country, yet hatred for your fellow countryman. You know. The ones that overwhelmingly voted for the guy you're accusing of being a Hitleresque dictator?
        Alan Cook Communists are not my countrymen, they are traitors to my country.
      • Alex McDowell Fine. Then take the bet, and have the satisfaction of keeping my NAZI hands off of good American cash. You're whole argument fails any logic whatsoever. The only thing that would make sense, and restore your sense of pride would be TO TAKE THE STINKING BET!


        • Alan Cook Is this how you always troll conservative facebook pages? wouldn't it be better for you to just get out of your mom's basement and get a job? then you're actually guaranteed a paycheck and you will have earned it.
        • Alex McDowell Fine. You made an assertion with no proof only to stir up fear and confusion and to propagandize for ..well...I'm not sure for what...Calling the majority of Americans Commies...or is it NAZIS? You have a fact claim. History will show us EXACTLY the value of that claim on 1-20-2017 at noon. Your claim is false. And you're too chicken to back it up. Make some money. Show that American pride. Take that risk like a good American entrepreneur, and show this damn Commie...or NAZI...or whatever what his place is.

      Alan Cook I share truth, its your Obama that stirred up fear and confusion as a community agitator in Chicago like other thugs of his ilk.
    • Alex McDowell Fine. Truth. All that. Then do your patriotic duty and charge this poor Commie some serious cash. Put me in my place and prove your excellent "truth". Then use the cash to buy more guns so you can protect this great land from the majority of its citizens.
    • Alex McDowell

      • Alan Cook Put your in your place? seriously i feel nothing but pity for you. You are so misguided and you think this is a way to make a living? You'll never get out of your mom's basement like this. I really hope you get the help you so desperately need.
      • Alan Cook God bless you.
      • Alex McDowell Chicken. Poor excuse for an American.

      • Alan Cook Get help. and soon.
      • Alex McDowell I'm not the one making absurd accusations with no proof.
        • Alan Cook Actually as far as i can tell, yes you are. Every time you defend Obama.
        • Alex McDowell There you go again. I haven't once defended Obama, nor made any value judgements about him here. I'm just looking at the lack of logic behind your accusations, and your fear of putting money where your delusions are. You say he's going to give us a coup. That's a bold charge. You have nothing to back it up. And you're not willing to put anything into it. It's a chicken's attack. No consequences. You're, ipso facto, a coward.
    • Alan Cook You attempt to discredit true Americans like Alan Scholl when they share the truth about your Obama. That in itself is done in defense of your messiah.
    • Alan Cook I have to get my son off to school in the morning so i have to get to bed. I sincerely hope you get the help you so clearly need. Maybe your Obamacare will pay for it for you.
    • Alex McDowell Okay. Have another day. But consider the bet. Or live in shame.
      Alex McDowell BTW, this isn't about the money, per se. It's about truth and accountability. But having a few extra bucks in my pocket, skinned off the ignorance of dangerously deluded cultists *is a plus. Or would be, if they weren't, at the heart of all, cowards and liars.Alex McDowell Failing the money, can we at least get an apology from you on January 20th 2017, if and when nothing like you claim comes to pass, even remotely? Can we get an, "I'm sorry for stirring up fake shit to scare people", at least? I mean, the bet's still on the table, but I just wanted to see if any of you insane and morally bankrupt people might want to show a modicum of class when proven wrong beyond any reasonable doubt.
      We will be watching and listening.

      And, as expected, I have been unfriended by the Wizard of the Birchers and blocked, but not before this kind note on my messages:
      What a sad, strange little man you are. Take your gambling fever somewhere else and pray you are not one of the first shot by the new regime'.  If you cannot see what's happening I pity you. thanks for the brief friend status the venom of the unGodly is a good reminder of what God has saved me FROM.

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